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Poster: vapors Date: Mar 3, 2010 2:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

Busted – sorry, I was intending to repost, using less words ... Basically I am in awe of how you write so well about our music, and in light of your revelation that you had not seen them live, I was curious how you came to be such a proficient and enthusiastic blogger. But then I wondered if it was cool to put you on the spot like that.

Regarding the topic of this thread, I grew up with the albums, but never had a live tape until after I had started seeing them live – an experience that greatly escalated and consumed much of my life from 84 -92.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

Your post was fine, there was no need to rewrite!

My own essays seem badly-written & repetitive to me, so I'm glad others see some value in them.
Not to chatter about myself, but I came to write about the Dead quite by accident, little by little. Only when you take one step does the next become clear....
Basically I tried to fill a void. No one was writing the kind of posts I wanted to see, so I had to try making them myself. The idea was to try to encourage others as well, but...so far it's been a lonely path. Ironically, those with the most Dead-listening experience & knowledge tend not to write very much! (Or, they just vanish over time as they lose interest.) So the same things have to get rediscovered over & over...

Actually I'm rather surprised that people feel that seeing the Dead was a necessary step to liking or appreciating them. I understand that viewpoint, but I didn't start liking the GD until well after they'd ceased to be. Lots of listeners today are in the same boat. And eventually, people with memories of shows will dwindle away, and listeners of the future will be left only with the music.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 3, 2010 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

>Basically I tried to fill a void. No one was writing the kind of posts I wanted to see, so I had to try making them myself. The idea was to try to encourage others as well, but...so far it's been a lonely path.

But others appreciate it so much. Just sayin'.

>eventually, people with memories of shows will dwindle

Ack! Don't say that! :0

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 3, 2010 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

LIA – I’m sure that there are many people who appreciate the obvious research that goes into your essays. It’s evidently something you get a great degree of satisfaction from (I can’t believe that all that effort goes into something you don’t enjoy!) and I’m sure that the fact that you’ve approached the task as an archival detective rather than relying on your memories is all to the good. (I saw the Dead about a half dozen times in 16 years and if I’m honest the only things that really stuck with me were Eyes of the World in 74 and Bird Song in 90 – not a heck of a lot to build a critical essay on…)

As to whether you’re going to encourage others to follow suit, I just wonder if there’s a possibility that some, while having a great deal of respect for what you’ve done, will feel intimidated, or perhaps inhibited is better, about having to produce something comparable. I’m betting there are some who see a damn big chunk of text and move swiftly on down the page to the smartass one-liners elsewhere.

Anyway, there are people here with something to say beyond the joshing and jiving that goes on daily, and even if what we get doesn’t always amount to an in-depth analysis it’s all part of keeping the community together. So don’t feel like you’re on a lonely path – there are plenty of people travelling along with you. They’re just speaking in different voices.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 3, 2010 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

Yeah, I know lots of folks probably see those huge dense blocks of text & skip to the next post; and I've heard complaints that they're too long & academic... But that's fine.
I understand being intimidated by someone else's post, lots of times I've felt like I can never match what someone's written. My familiarity with the Dead's shows is minimal compared to some folks, and my musical knowledge is nonexistent... My secret is persistence - I just keep at it.
As I've said before, I lurked here for a year because I felt I had nothing to add. But seeing bigger comparative posts by folks like C.Hucker & HeLives, I realized, I could do that too - and use the little skill I have to raise the bar for Dead-writing & possibly inspire those who come after me.
It is an exercise in frustration though, since I try to write above my level, and the results look pitiful to me. Can't say it's not rewarding, though.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 3, 2010 3:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

Dont sell yourself short!

Your analysis and music discussion consistently raise the bar here to levels very infrequently attained otherwise. And you dont get distracted by nonsense like some of us frequently do :)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 3, 2010 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How many of you....

I don't think it's necessary to have seen the Dead to appreciate them. Hell, there are plenty of artists I love who I never saw live (see Davis, Miles). Not only that, but just to say that you "saw" the Dead doesn't say much. I never saw a show before 1990, so I'm sure there are plenty of people who would try to tell me that I will never fully "get it."

On the other hand, I did get something out of seeing them live that I just couldn't get anywhere else. And maybe it's just the way I'm wired, but I still get goosebumps when I hear the special moments from even the most mediocre shows that I saw.